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    i have asked the question before about the minimum wage under a blue government.

    i have never had a reply and the subject was never raised at conference.

    the idea that labour gains from locking people into the benefits system is a discredited one.

    life long benefit people do not vote, most do not even know when an election is on.
    seems a bit of a generalisation, but ask people who canvass at election time?

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