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  Which prisons have you been to recently Roger?! I don't think you'll find any argument from any of us about the worthlessness of rapists and murderers and paedophiles, but that's not the issue. The issue is not about them but about us and how we respond to them: do we commit the same errors or do we demonstrate a grown up and human attitude. And prison is never a holiday camp! That is a myth spread by the Daily Mail to titilate its readers. Paedophiles and rapists get a (deservedly) hard time in prisons, without let up and without escape, and no amount of TV and ping ping will make up for that - and frankly I am not bothered! I don't give a second thought to their suffering in prison, and I would not for a second condone their murder in my name either. if someone hurt someone about whom I care I would probably want to kill them with my bare hands, but that doesn't mean it would be the right thing to do.

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