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    PaulB - Afghanistan is not an occupied country. NATO is there at the request of the Afghan Government which is threatened by the Taliban, as indeed are we. Remember how the Taliban sheltered Al Qaida enabling them to carry out 9/11 and other terrorist attacks. If they are left free to do that again then we will suffer an increase in terror in the UK and in other western countries.

    As for hearts and minds - the British Army have a superb record of these operations. Oman and Malaysia are two examples that immediately come to mind. Oman was threatened in the late 60's by Communist insurgents and UK Special Forces went in to support the Oman Government in a similar way to Afghanistan. The Malaysia insurgency in the early 60's was another hugely successful operation in that case against Chinese Communists insurgents.

    Hearts and minds can work but it needs proper application from all the NATO forces and the Afghan Government as well as time. The big problem in the 'ghan is the tribal aspect as Barry W-S says but also the problems with the Pakistan border and foreign terrorist involvement boosting the Taliban.

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