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    Only caught the tail end on the news tonight, but some chap has been stabbed to death for trying to help a woman being mugged. Thats what happens they go from Asbo's to murder as an Asbo is a total waste of time.

    I joined the forces after National Service finsihed and have always been against bringing National Service back in, but I am starting to think that it could be part of the answer Ian. Stop giving out ASBO's give them the option Prison/Youth Custody or the Armed Forces and have special military units for them.

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