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    Roger I have not branded anyone as racist or a bigot - I do stand by my comment that the perceptions reported in this thread are unfounded and factually erroneous, but accept that they are genuinely held in good faith.

    I am more than happy to have a debate about how we as a nation fulfil our obligations to genuine asylum seekers, how we manage immigration and what we do about illegal migrants. The UK has a long history of rejecting and ostracising immigrants when they fist arrive but over time weaving them into the fabric of our society, including the French Hugenots, the Irish, the West Indians etc.

    Within all societies there are freeloaders, including amongst those who are born and bred here.

    All the evidence suggests that illegals try to stay below the radar of society so do not present themselves to the authorities seeking housing or any other benefits. in order to survive many take jobs at below minimum wage as they have no status, or become involved in criminal activities. It is the comparatively small numbers seeking asylum, where it is eventually decided without good grounds, who often end up in social housing etc. The vast majority of legal migrants (i.e. those with the right to stay or given leave to stay) end up in private accommodation, either rented or owner occupied. To balance this evidence from the Social is that the majority of benefit fraud is committed by people who would be best described as UK citizens.

    Jacqui, sadly this is the nature of threads/conversations

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