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    Ken, are you actually saying that we won`t be affected immigration wise by Turkey`s possible admission to the EU? I seem to remember that Labour`s track record on immigration numbers and statistics was always an absolute farce. You`re not by any chance using their old formula are you?!

    Barry is right in saying that the only way to avoid our usual "open door" policy is to ensure that certain limits are in place prior to admission.

    You are correct, however, in stating that there is already a strong Turkish presence in Germany. I`m not so sure though that this is seen as a good thing by the majority of Germans coupled with the fact that Angela Merkel is critical of their entry into the EU.

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