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    Barry, I have to admire your adherence Thatcherism, continuing to worry about the price of everything and the value of nothing! The provider is key, as privatisation will only lead a defined tiered system, perpetuating the mindless class system that is still the dominating factor destroying the concept of 'choice' in this country (you can't 'have it if you really want'). We can see this within the system we already have. Just because someone can afford private health care does this mean that they are more entitled to care? (Please answer this)

    Sweden the current 'home of Conservative plagiarism' hasn't formed these systems over the last year and a half, the principles behind much of what they are doing extend across differing governments and have always placed an emphasis on paying into the social structure. Looking at the UNICEF report on the well-being of children in developed countries there is almost a perfect correlation between those countries that have high provision for children (with less living in deprivation) and those with higher tax and state provision(spain being the exception). I don't think this is coincidence! As soon as our species started co-existing, social engineering or one sort or another has had to take place, history tells us this as fact. It's no good ignoring it!

    I have every faith that you know what is best for your family and how best to spend your money, however I have heard this line so many times before, from others that you would claim don't.

    "If I want to smoke, It's my choice, it's my only pleasure, THEY can't tell me what to spend my money on, it keeps me calm and that's better for the kids"

    "I can't believe the THEY think they can fine me for not sending my son to school, I learnt nothing at school, THEY're all the same, what right have THEY to tell me I have to send little Johnny?!"

    "Why is playing my music loud at 3 in the morning on a Wednesday wrong. Me and my wife have no kids, work shifts and we like to unwind with our colleagues. What right have THEY got to tell me that this is anti-social!?...anyway I don't even think it is loud, how can THEY say it is loud?"

    'They' being the establishment and their social engineering of course. How can these people also know what to spend their money on and what to do Barry?

    Just to note, that my Mum often responds to people when they tell her where they have been on holiday with the line "oooh, THEY say it's nice there" This 'they' could be a different from the social engineering lot....although I might be wrong!

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