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    Maybe they would be unbelievable if you read or quoted them correctly Sue.

    Statistically the higher paid jobs in this country are still dominated by those who have been to poublic school, that's a fact!

    I certainly would not say that hard work will not get you places. What I am saying is that hard work does not always deliver. I'm questioning the protestant work ethic and Desmond Dekka more than anything else. I have what I need in my life, due to hard work, but also being born into a caring family and being encouraged, which I endevour to pass onto my children (and the inheritance of genes.) These things are cyclical and if you rattle on about social mobility you must understand the fundemental problem that stalls it. I know people that work twice as hard as me and yet have no more!

    Conservative #1
    "What anoys us so Tories is the people who bleed us dry and never contribute to society "

    Conservative #2
    "Tax should always be kept as low as possible"

    hmmmm!

    PS. would you delineate 'common sense' for me!

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