Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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According to press reports the mod is planning to axe three infantry battalions to save money. Forumites i await your comments it will bring the British army to a its lowest manpower levels since the Crimean war.
beer the food of the gods
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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So will that mean bringing all our troops home that are serving overseas to reform as a Home Guard? Presumable this will augment our Coastal Defence Force (used to be called the Royal Navy).
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The MOD is a Government department, so it is a Government decision. There must be other ways to say money, without these kind of cuts, it's a disgrace, nothing less.
At this rate we won't have a proper army, so won't be able to carry out what we have been doing which will result in greater danger for those still serving.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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If true then this is appalling.
The MoD is the only Government Ministry not to have receive large spending increases over the last 12 years, despite the number of conflicts they have been involved in.
The first and most important duty of any Government is the defence of the nation. They have and are failing in this duty.
The only budget, in these diffficult times, that should be preserved or indeed increased is the Defence budget.
Brian Dixon
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either that or withdraw from presant conflicts,these conflicts are draining resouses from armed forces budget.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Whether we remain embroiled in Afghanistan or not we would still need to increase Defence spending.
Besides I would rather our armed forces fight the Taliban and Al-Qaida in the 'Ghan than to defend against their terrorism on the streets of London (or Dover).
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Lets all BASH the Govt of the day again, for an MOD decision.
Why don't we channel our energies on condemning the MOD who made the decision rather than this continued Govt bashing.
I suspect the MOD in there wisdom will have looked at it
lets get thew full story before again govt bashing
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I'm with you Keef I have yet to read any press release from the MOD so I will reserve judgement until I see where and how the 'proposed' cuts are to be implemented. Get rid of Trident and take on more troops would be my solution.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Think this is 1 of many issues that will go on and on]
TRIDENT vs COSTS
the more missles we have the more others have/get
where will it end i dread to think
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Hold on a second - the MoD is having to make this decision because of the Government's consistent underfunding of Defence, so yes it is right to bash this wretched bunch of losers.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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After the last postings, please paulb will you consider having a seperate politics page?
I do realise Mr Happy and others would be happy at barryw' comments but if i go bk at him i will be the one making things political!!!!!
lets hope this forum doesnt become a stale tory machine
im sure some of you wouldnt want that
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Embarrassed by the activities of the Government you support, Keith, so you dont want too many people to read critisism about them....
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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BAZ
You do know that many have called for the political page to return.
Many posters are bored of the politics
But hey ho
i can only suggest to paulb lets see if he acts
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - change the record...
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Barryw
You mite like to chat to posters i do,
many are fed up of all this politics rambling, many just are not interested and wont post, maybe to allow you to continue postings,
we bring back the politics page, that way you are happy posting till your hearts content, every one else is happier
so we are all winners
not to much to ask
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barryw/kieth,it depends which bunch of losers you want to bash.i have known torys to cut the defence quite deeply at times in the last 30 years or so.in conclusion they [labour/torys]are as bad as one another.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian- you are correct. There was Options for Change which was a result of the end of the Cold War. In my view that went too far but at least that was for the right reasons and at a time when Defence commitments were reduced. Labour has taken things much farther than that and at a time when we are at war. They had their defence review and then cuts to levels below what their review said they should be despite the increased commitments placed upon the armed forces by Blair.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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And wot im saying is more local, let the debatread away
those e continue on a politics page the those thsat dont have that interest can post/away
those interested can look at politics page
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we seem to be forgetting that most of the terrorists are based here in europe.
they may go to pakistan or afghanistan for koran study, then a training camp, but then straight back here to pursue their nefarious activities.
we rely on the security services in the uk and mainland europe to protect us, our troops in afganistan are being killed or injured for no good reason.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - the larger and more spectacular attacks need careful planning and a secure base from which to operate from. Our presence in the Ghan denies them that secure base and keeps them on the hop. We are also aware of the cross border raids that the Americans conducted recently into Pakistan and not to mention the Pakistani Army's operations against Taliban.