Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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DDC Press Release
: DOVER TOWN CEMETERIES
A special exhibition on cemetery provision in Dover and proposals for a preferred new site in the Elms Vale area is being held on Monday 24 May at the Ark, Noah's Ark Road, Dover from 3pm-8pm - and your views are sought.
The exhibition boards will also be on display at Council offices in Whitfield from 25 May to 2 June and available to view on Dover District Council's website at
www.dover.gov.uk
The public exhibition is being held by DDC as part of ongoing work to plan for the future development of the district. It will outline the range of issues involved, and a number of alternative sites that have been investigated, and will present details of the preferred site in the Elms Vale area, (agricultural land adjacent to the Harbour School).
This follows extensive work with a range of partner agencies, and is being taken forward as cemeteries in Dover Town are gradually reaching capacity.
Representatives from DDC will be at the exhibition to discuss proposals and answer any questions from the public. All feedback will be taken fully into consideration before any decisions are taken. Any proposals would need planning permission and consultation, in keeping with all relevant planning legislation.
For more information, please contact Property Services on (01304) 872436 or email
darransolley@dover.gov.uk
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Hard as it may seem its a point we all must think of i guess.
Well I'm down for the municipal barbecue at Barham.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Lovely place Barham.
I wonder what the thoughts of the local people are, about ElmsVale being the new dead-centre of Dover.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Keith i thought i saw you with your friend the other day . Oh whats his name?????????? oh yeah Grim reaper and the other bloke with the horns
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Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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bloke with horns got me on his appointment diary
What was wrong with the DTIZ site?
Graves are sold on a lease basis and the law states that this can not be for more than 100 years. Flogging it off for graves would give DDC a century to get their act together by which time there might be some realistic plans for the site.
Alternatively there's always Betteshangar Business Park with 50 acres of expensively landscaped ground. My kids could probably get me round there in a wheelbarrow to save expense.
Is there any business in BBP? If not, sounds like Bob has come up with a winner.
Afraid not Sid. (Unless you count learner drivers using the road layout to practice reversing round corners).
An excellent investment of £18.8 million of coalfield 'regeneration' money.
Admittedly this also paid for the little used cycle track at Foulmead across the road and there is a man hiring out bikes there + two in the 'leisure facility' (a shed that serves teas) which works out as just over £6 million per created job, unless one takes into account employment generated for consultants, planners etc. etc. and others responsible for this monstrous white elephant!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i must confess to not knowing of the existence of bbp.
how long is it since it ws built?
Howard. The road to nowhere was officially opened on 19/12/08 following adoption by KCC.
You can view it on Google Earth @ 051 Deg 13 Min 42.16 N 001 Deg 20 Min 47.96 Sec E.
It does not appear on Google Street map as presumably the guy driving the car took one look, realised that there was nothing there and carried on along the A256 towards Sandwich!!
(I've now e-mailed DDC with my suggestion. Awaiting developments....)
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There is growing evidence to suggest that we are facing a shortage of burial space in the UK. Many other countries actually reuse burial space. A detailed burial survey was completed for the capital by the London Planning Advisory Committee a few years ago and the report found that there was, in Inner London, only nine years supply of non-denominational burial space available.
Many of the capital's graveyards are so crowded the government is considering a range of options to help relieve the pressure. They include the idea of double-decker graves - laying the remains of one dead person on top of another. The plan could apply to those who have been resting in peace for a 100 years or more. The bodies would be dug up, re-interred and buried at a deeper level thus leaving room for another coffin on top. Meanwhile others are looking for alternatives to burial. Cremation has been encouraged by the authorities for a century as a clean, space-saving alternative. It's also much cheaper. Britain has one of the world's highest cremation rates, almost three-quarters of the population chooses to be incinerated rather than interred.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Dennis Wheatley put me off of being buried - I think the book was called "The Ka of Gifford Hilary" - great book; a master story-teller if ever there was one.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Im remembering back Jeane but I think cremation is not allowed in the Catholic Church...or at least it didnt used to be. There were no cremations in Ireland. Just vast cemetaries often in near wilderness locations to take care of everything and everybody. Im talking about a while ago now so Im not sure what its like today, but as Roger says there..burying is not the only answer and is not for everybody.
With regards to the Catholic church, the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s lifted the ban, provided the body was present during the funeral and cremated afterwards.
Church rules were relaxed further in 1997 when the Vatican agreed that cremated remains could be brought into church for the liturgical rites of burial.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Ah thanks for that Bob... I remember in the old days the sheer horror on peoples faces at the mere mention of the word Cremate. We were a society ruled in total by the Catholic Church... I often wondered what the politicians were there for at the time, as they were surplus to requirements..well almost.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Yes I know what you mean PaulB, I was brought up as a Catholic and actually I wouldn't want to be cremated myself. It was how I started photographing cemeteries as I spent so long in them as a child. It was the 'thing' to go to the cemetery one Sunday each month to take flowers and tidy up. Whilst the adults chatted, I would wander around and look at all the angels and crosses etc.
A reply from DDC!
Dear Mr Frost,
'I acknowledge receipt of your e-mail and your comments have been noted.
Regards
Darran Solley
Senior Horticultural Officer
Dover District Council
Council Offices, White Cliffs Business Park, Whitfield, Dover CT16 3PJ'
So Darren is the Senior Horticultural Officer. Who is the Junior Horticultural Officer? Are there any middle ranking Horticultural Officers? Nothing against horticultural officers per se, but are they all officers with no troops? I think we should be told!
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bob - there is a lot to do in the district in the "Parks and Open Spaces", so need people at various level, tree officer's Connaught, Kearsney, Russell Gardens, Crabble, all over Sandwich and Deal, areas of the Western Heights, roundabouts, planters, play areas etc, etc, etc
Been nice knowing you :)