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    I take what you're saying, Barry - but here in Dover we seem to be stuck in a rut with the planning department. There seems a genuine need for fresh blood, and the starting point has to be the DTIZ. I know you've been heavily involved with that particular white elephant since you had hair(!), but I get the feeling that those involved can no longer see the wood for the trees and that a clean sheet with fresh ideas is the place to start.

    Vic's quite outspoken in calling for the lot of them to go, and tbh I have some sympathy with his sentiments - if the planning people at DDC were a political party, there would have been an outcry long since. If the stalling point is rules and regulations, how come other towns seem to find a way through them when Dover patently fails? I'm thinking in particular of Folkestone's town centre development and Westwood Cross in Thanet which has an amazing array of shops, restaurants, cinemas and a casino whilst Dover has the same car park the Luftwaffe built for us in the 1940s.

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