Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Pete Doherty, the medias favourite p*sshead and drug artist..has been let out of prison miles early. He served a paltry few weeks of a much longer sentence. Why does this guy get treated with specialist kid gloves all the time. He continues to flout drug laws, he continues to stick two fingers, or perhaps its one finger nowadays, up at society and now has kicked the probabtion service where it hurts but never pays the real price.
Judging by the kind of prison sentences we see locally...if you or me tried all that we'd be taken to the bastille in double quick time with little chance of early parole.On the contrary we would be incarcerated in the deepest dungeon. How do you pull it off Pete??
The main gripe here is that through his exploits he has made drug and drink abuse acceptable. The teenagers now think drug abuse is great fun..well he can get away with it//cant he ??!
Guest 654- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Paulb
THINK we have a problem where by the prisons are full and they need the space for more serious offenders.
Thats not to say I agree with whats gong on at the moment, or that he should have been released.
Its a balancing act at the moment, they will be wrong for trying to free up space, and also wrong for over filling jails, and wrong for trying to sort it.
On top of this you will always get the NOT IN MY BACK YARD issues, where new prisons are needed or wanted to be built no one wants them close to where there live.
So thats a long winded post, but you know what I mean.
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The underlying problem is that all sentencing is inequitable and varies by location and judge or magistrate. It's not helped by prima donna megastars such as Pete Doherty and Amy Winehouse who have more money than sense.
Amy could do with a smack in the mouth, problem is she'd probably like it!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Its that early release scheme again. All because the Government has not invested in new prisons. The rise in prison population was predicted but they did nothing.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It's ridiculous, it's like if you are a celebrity now you can do what the hell you like. Prison? No problem you'll probably only get a few days (or hours - Nicole Ritchie, Paris Hilton.) Then you can sell your story to the tabloids about how you were bullied and picked on by the other inmates and how you suffered because you had to eat with a plastic fork and you are now so traumatised you can't face lunch at The Ivy!!
I knew Amy Winehouse in the days when she was a 'Nice Jewish girl', slightly plump with a wicked sense of humour. We drank at The Hawley Tavern in Camden (before it was burnt down earlier this year.) She has a fantastic voice and a loving family who are going through hell because of the drugged up, violent bag of bones she has become. I find it so very very sad.
That ol thing about "absolute power corrupts absolutely" is so often proved true, and its sister saying "absolute wealth degrades absolutely" equally so. If you have people around you always saying "yes" to eberything and putting things right when they go wrong, there are no consequences and no learning - if you could do anything you liked and get away with it, wouldn't you??!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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with all the celebrities that "do porage" nowadays, the average clink must be like a lock in at stringfellows.
i am saving up to get convicted.
Guest 666- Registered: 25 Mar 2008
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Hi Howard,
Check out the kids programme 'The Slammer' has the look of HMP Slade from Porridge fame but with it all glitzed up along with the Gov as compere!
Only the best act is released.....
Oh Boy!, That'll be the day.........
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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'The Slammer' - I've heard it all now!
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I also saw that Peaches Geldof is probably getting off with a caution on a drugs charge even though she was caught on film, it's seems they are after the pushers and not the actual celebs themselves. These celebs move in a social circle that prides itself on being cool, alternative and somehow 'better' than the rest of us. It seems fashionable to feel sorry for them, I feel it shows a complete lack of imagination and they are merely bored, they don't deserve to be treated any different than the rest of us.
From Pete, Amy, Paris and now Peaches, they are certainly not great roll models for the younger generation.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Sadly young people will think that you're nobody unless you've been convicted for DUI, been video'd smoking an illegal substance and you've been to rehab (for 3 days) by which time of course you are 'cured'!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes there was an interesting documentary on Amy Winehouse last night. What a quivering wreck she is, but...and here is the odd bit...in a survey amongst todays teenagers, she was the one they all wanted to be like by the time they reach 24. Try that one for size!! Looks like the battle is lost.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I'm an Agony Aunt on a teenage forum and it's true that many think Amy Winehouse is cool and someone to strive to be like. Kate Moss also ranks highly (drug scandal last year) ditto Lindsey Lohan (drugs, alcohol, DUI).
Alas there are very few (true) role models for young people nowadays. It seems you can't be a 'star' unless you have a few convictions or punch-up's!
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Oh what a shame to see so much talent go to waste thats the most saddest think of all because they seem to throw it all away so publicly.
Entertainers are by nature show-offs who gravitate towards the spotlight, so by their nature I guess they will live their lives as near to publicly as they can get. I could wish we still respected and revered people who achieved something, though, so that we could more easily show aspirational figures to our children. My children have learned to respect and admire, for example, their grandad who although he didn't lead a country or perform brain surgery, he did work all his life to support his family, played with his grandchildren, and went the extra mile for friends and family.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They have posters in the Philippines stating
Jail the Pusher and save the User.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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When I went to Balli a few years ago I got off the plane and saw huge posters to the effect that if you are convicted of drug smuggling you could be executed! I thought it got the point across pretty well!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Jeane, I long for the day when we come to our senses and do the same. All illegal drug traffikers and pushers should face a manditory death sentence commuted only if the inform on those higher up the chain..... That will end the drugs problem and push up the cost sky high due to risk. Also I could not care lesss whether the drug is class A, B or C - they should all get the same penalty.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Talking about drugs our boys in blue had a major drugs haul in Beaconsfield Road earlier this week, it seems that cannabis was being grown and produced on a large scale with every available bit of space being put to use. Well Done Lads, another one off the streets
Off with their heads! (not off their heads)
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