Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
19 September 2009
07:3529158This ECOLI problem is spreading , now a whole series of farms are closing to the public following further cases which is clearly badly affecting kids in particular. We have had many deaths from Ecoli in the past, most notably from that butchers meat in Scotland where 20 people died..so its not something to be taken lightly.
However it seems to me that it would be a great loss for city/urban kids to never have any contact with animals at all, for fear of the worst. We've all done it havent we... feeding calves, hugging lambs, and enjoyed the experience of them licking your hands and so on, kids just love it.
But animals are riddled with the disease. Its a relatively new disease as I understand it, only coming to light 20 or so years ago but I myself spent a lot of my early life in contact with animals, animals destined for the food chain, but never caught anything, but like we said it was pre Ecoli, but not pre other nasty bugs. However it was all worth the risk. Although easy to say as I never caught anything.
Are kids today too soft, too clean...they pick up everything going. Too many baths, too many showers, too much spraying of dettol round the kitchen, too much bug annihilation by worried parents has left them susceptible to almost everything.
Ecoli lives on comfortably in cattle deer sheep etc it doesnt affect their health but affects clearly the humans that come in contact with them. It is passed through animal dung. The calf then licks/eats from the ground obviously where this dung is, he then licks the next kid along and the rest is obvious.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,698
19 September 2009
11:3829169For pete's sake, I grew up in the country as a kid and never had any major health issues, despite probably not washing my hands from breakfast to tea.
We wrap ou kids in cotton wool these days and this is the outcome.
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
- Posts: 1,052
19 September 2009
11:5729172Where has this ecoli come from. As Ross says it doesn't seem to have been a major issue in the past and why don't we hear of farmworkers being struck down by it?
Mark
19 September 2009
12:2829174Let kids get mucky. They build up immunities, have fun, and learn stuff. Job done.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,463
19 September 2009
12:3129175Lunchtime TV news had some Doctor of Bullshit in fact a professor of all animal shit stating that under 5 year olds should not be allowed to visit and touch farm animals.
where do they dig these people up from?
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
19 September 2009
17:4829183loonatic aysylum,broom cupboard or the nearist toadstall.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
19 September 2009
20:2029187it is correct about immunities being built up, we are far too cleanliness conscious today.
it leave our children defenceless against normal everyday germs.
scientists have stated that children living on farms or visiting regularly never catch anything.
20 September 2009
19:4929193I have seen on the news today that the government, sorry, I mean our pathetic NANNY STATE, are seriously discussing this idea of preventing kids from ever coming into contact with farm animals in the wake of this outbreak. Surely the right thing to do is identify the trouble spots and fix them rather than blanket ban this age-old tradition? It seems that our nanny state always does this - something goes wrong somewhere so they blanket-ban it. Pathetic. Hey, someone crashed their car the other day, maybe we should ban driving?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
21 September 2009
06:1829197I agree Rick - but it goes back straight to the Squirrel and Grasshopper scenario - overkill and completely the wrong action.
There was a "joke (I use the word loosely) going round a year or so, may have been more, about Noah being told by God to build an ark nowadays and the laws and rules and regulations he was having to face - so much so, that it could never be built.
Where do they dig these "experts" up from ? and where's their "common-sense" ?
Roger
21 September 2009
06:5029199I couldn't agree more. Some rules and regs are needed, but for goodness' sake!!!