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  Barry you still refuse to comment on a two-tier system as I andnow others have mentioned.
  As far as landlords are concerned I think you will find that the big chains not only train their staff but their managers as well, to keep detached from the customer and not get involved in the friendly banter you get in the traditional local.
  Regarding trouble, much of the behaviour comes from the big chain operations, just look at some of the television programmes they will invariably show drunks falling out of the big disco bars where they have gorged themselves with cheap booze. The old landlord because of his interaction with his customers could smell the slightest hint of trouble and could nip it in the bud before it escalated. CCTV cannot do that.
  Regarding kids, not in locals please the average bloke went to the pub for a bit of peace and quiet and perhaps get away fromthe ole' woman who was addicted to Coronation Street and all the other over-rated rubbish.

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