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  Dave this discussion is now spread among two threads and I did sddress the two tier issue on the other won. I am against it, totally. It would create other problems. Far better that smokers do themselves and their families a favour and give up their anti-social habit.
  
  One thing that might help the 'local' would be a differentiated tax on alcohol that reduces the cost of the kind of real ales sold in good pubs and increasing it on the tipples of choice for binge drinkers, including those dreadful alcopops.

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