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  Helluva comprehensive post there Phil so many thanks for that. I will certainly look to see if Ive got any but the fear is you never know do you if you are the one yourself passing on the counterfeits. If I tried to buy some beer at Crabble I wouldnt have known myself whether i was paying with a dud or not..you just take it on face value that the ones in your own pocket are alright...or worse still, it doesnt even occur to you that they might be fake.
  
  Will certainly pay more attention. Another point worth mentioning, when you get older you cant see the bloody things properly anyway...

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