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    No disrespect Vic, but think about what you said. To help I have paraphrased:

    We all have a number of forms of ID
    We generally have to show these at various times to prove who we are
    People get benefits they should not
    National ID cards fix this and give lots of other unspecified benefits

    Now surely if showing your ID to get your benefit stops benefit fraud and we all already have numerous forms of ID why do we need ID cards?

    Surely what we need is the various agencies that dish out benefits to start rigorously checking ID

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