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    bern
    In part you are correct, i'm not sure if you include me in your thoughts on the PC brigade?(as barryw has in the past misunderstood me and said i'm part of the PC brigade, far from the truth)
    but back to th post, theres still not been any convincing posts that religion changes owt, not diffrent to people looking up(wrongly in my eyes) to famous footballers etc, the only diffrence is within religions you get the fanatics.

    Interesting debate though

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