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    I'm glad you bought the thread back on topic Paul. I read Rick's post and wondered how it had changed so quickly to bashing political and church drums.

    I have the utmost respect for your business (I don't know you Rick as far as I'm aware). The downturn in business you're experiencing currently - could it be seasonal or perhaps due to company budgets being on hold why they wait to decide what to do? There will be something you can do to give the order book a kick. I'm sure you'll be able to come up with something.

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