Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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In the past few days Iv met many people but let me share briefly how the other half live
Speaking in a general conversation a man said to me, yep I lost £100,000 in the BP fiasco not as tho it was going to change his life(he is a freemason)
but only that he needs to look at his finances, had no great concerns over the loss.
Imagine you or me losing a pound, let alone £100,000!!!
As I say a different world
Not all freemasons can afford to lose a pound either! I've met many who are just ordinary folk, cab drivers, tradesmen, office workers, firemen etc. Very rarely do you bump into a mega-wealthy mason.
Personally, I'd be mortified to lose 1% of that guy's investment.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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SID
That was my point, I just threw in the freemason bit knowing some one would re act lol
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Your response beat me to it Sid and I am not a freemason, however I believe the initial post was part of an inexplicable disdain held by the local Labour Party towards freemasonry or it is a view held by the Labour Party in general?
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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SID
Just on freemasons they will admit(those that are honest enough) they are everywhere and im aware of people being declined jobs even though suitably qualified, but the interviewer was from the DARK SOCIETY
problem is there so in the close(not gay type lol)
you don't know there out there, and they can affect your every day life, and they shouldnt have that power
Then theres the other side of the coin, where people who should go down get away with it with the handshake, or dare i say it freemason protecting freemason.
im aware of it im sure many others are in all walks of life.
if they were open it would be easier to deal with.
but enough on this.
on the £100,000 this bloke was talking matter-of-fact type, as though oh well never miind, tommorow another day, didnt seem to be of any concern.
blimey mate, I dropped a penny the other day and sent out a search party
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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maybe blue barry was just putting on a brave face about losing the 100 grand.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not me mate....
Perhaps he was 'putting a brave face on' because he has not really lost the money. He would only lose if he encashed his investment and locked in the losses. The share price may well rise again quite quickly once the crisis is over and the company can move on. Hopefully he will have a lot more investment elsewhere as well.
The freemasonry matter is utterly irrelevant to his investment and visa versa.
True, for his shares to have fallen that much there must have been a lot of money invested in this company in the first place.
The lesson folks is not to put too many eggs into one company basket. For most people collective funds would be best, or rather a well constructed portfolio of the better managed collective funds. Cue good financial advice......
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Keith you couldn't ask this chap to help support this years Christmas Day at Age Concern could you? He wouldn't miss the pennies and about 80 older folk would have a brilliant day.
Brian Dixon
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wellcome back kieth,its nice to hear that you are alive and kicking.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Ken, never mind Christmas Day. Since that sat-nav lover wrote off a bus last week we need a new bus.
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Never heard of a "Dark Society", so cannot comment.
The "openness" penny dropped bigtime in Freemasonry a few years back and now there are occasions when non-masons are able to attend what used to be closed meetings. Let us not forgt the huge sums of money raised for charity too. It wasn't that lojng ago my lodge donated £3000 to a Dover Autism group.
All this stuff about dodgy dealings etc., well, that's old hat and much less prevalent than back the 60's and 70's.
Lastly, a big part of the employment process is finding common ground with whoever is being interviewed. That common ground could be anything, a passion for stamp collecting, singing, TA work, masonry, or even support of the same football team. I once struck a chord with a supporter of Guildford City who was interviewing me for a job many years ago. I supported another non-league team at the time, Ilford. This guy, as I found out later, was the butt end of all the footie jokes in the office and having another guy on his side as it were was a bonus to him, and me. I got the job and neither of us were masons.
All this stuff about masons is so old hat and folks really ought to know better and/or move on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i seem to remember seeing roger all suited and booted going to an open day at his lodge.
things do appear to be more upfront now, only problem i have is posh barry blackballing me from his and getting the bouncers to give me a kicking round the back.
You were lucky Howard. A kicking in the front can be a painful experience!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not all Freemasons are rich, many in fact are not rich at all, that's why there's a Benevolent fund for poor and distressed Freemasons.
They also raise more money in the U.K. than any other organisation and not just for Masons either.
If everyone followed the precepts of Freemasonry, the World would be a far better place.
But, yes, there are bad apples, but every organisation has bad apples; Freemasonry has much less bad apples than most.
I have resigned from my Lodge because of Cameron MacSween and Alan Shirley, who are also members - neither of whom (to me), follow the precepts of Freemasonry - and they say Masons look after each other: oh no they don't.
Roger