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    Guzz, they win because they are capitalising on the neglect by Labour of their electoral base, the white so called working class. They still only get around 3% of the vote nationally and are unlikley to advance much beyond that.

    Dont mix up honesty or rather dishonesty with being unable to tell all or be completely open. One problem an opposition has, for instance, is the lack of access to all the detailed information available to a Government.

    Howard, yes I am more right wing than Charlie. He is not that right wing at all. Atilla, well he was an old socialist softie really

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