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  When you say "they" Sid, are you making unjustified assumptions about Elders? Because the process of inclusion and involvement made it very clear that "they" and their circles of support understood very well what was going on. To assume otherwise is patronising in the extreme. I would not make a judgement call such as the one I described without making very very very sure there were safeguards in place and people were able to make informed decisions, with the option of changing that decision if needed.

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