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    Brian - molehills that culuminatively, over 12 years, created an economic disaster for the UK. The compounding effect of poor economic policy over 12 years is what caused us to be first into a recession and will be last out. My fingers are crossed that we dont get that second dip, if we dont then it will only be by the skin of our teeth, the recovery will be long and slow. Then we get to the hangover from this binge of spend and borrowing - that is going to be very painful whoever is in power.

    Ross - This thread is all about Gordon Brown, he, himself is a political issue. In the absense of real polls the polling evidence is what we all have to go on. When we look at previous elections and compare them to the polls rarely are they out a great deal, certainly they have been steadily improving in accuracy over the years as methodoligy has improved. I do have a go at those who ignore the evidence around them and make assertions that are a long way for the reality of the situation.

    Of course there will always be opposing views, that what makes life interesting. The fact is that Gordon Brown is personally responsible for the actions that have created the economic mess we are in. OK maybe he meant well but good intentions are not enough. He made his judgements over 10 years as Chancellor and got the vast majority, certainly of the important ones, wrong and the evidence for that is the economic mess we have. And then I am speaking relative to other major countries, because yes, we have had a world recession with most of the rest of the world having resumed a growth phase, but not us... Note that he frequently ignored his advisers, that means he cannot blame others for his misjudgements.

    As for the Labour Party. They have been an unmitigated disaster to the economy of this country in every period of Government they have had. They do not deserve to maintain their place as the main left of centre opposition in the UK. As a Tory I would like that centre to be moved significantly to the right but I expect that will not be the case....

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