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    try telling that to the european court of human rights.

    i am not a hang them and flog them type, but there must be some boundaries.

    i do not like the thought of prisoners locked up in their cells for 23 hours a day doing nothing.

    surely they must pay some sort of debt to society with work, the ones that will not change are being punished, the ones that intend to do something with their life might gain a skill(or just a work ethic).

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