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  There are lots of opportunities for people in prisons to learn, but we need to be able to target the learning so that it is useful on release. And you are so right, Jan, it is complex beyound belief, not least because it is such a political hot potato that any developments are tied to political whim, which is tied to please-the-people mentalities. Somewhere along this line the people who understand about reducing reoffending need to be allowed to do their jobs without pandering to political will. It is no use having to kow-tow to the bullying hang 'em high lobby - that clearly doesn't work as it has never stopped crime!! But there are ways - NOT "soft" ways" - that can do better. It isn't necessary to be "soft" or "hard" - just realistic and objective.

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