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  Gary - the miners strike was only about Scargill and his power hungry Union thugs, it was about intimidation, bullying and industrial suicide. When THEY chose to take on Mrs T it was their mistake. She made sure this country could no longer be held to blackmail by the Unions and her victory in defeating these thugs was a victory for the whole country. We have all benefitted from the defeat of the old class warriors and thankfully we should never see that kind of mad industrial intimidation again. The striking miners got exactly what they deserved.
  
  The Unions wanted a fight and they got it. They needed smashing and they brought it about themselves.
  
  DT1 - You and I have very different views of society, things you se as good I see as bad and visa-versa.
  
  Lets deal with the so-called 'family silver' first. The only way that particular 'family silver' could acquire a value was by wholesale changes; to reduce overmanning, getting rid of restrictive working practises, reducing the power of the Unions and opening the businesses up to free markets. By doing that they did acquire a value, but as overmanned inefficient loss making State industries they were a national liability and blood sucking leeches not a worthwhile assets. That could only be done through privatisation.
  
  I am surprised though at you bringing up that old chesnut to have a go at Mrs T with the usual mis-quote and misrepresentation of her. lets see exactly what she did say in that speech......
  
  """""""""""I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand "I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!" or "I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!" .............
  ..........It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations, because there is no such thing as an entitlement unless someone has first met an obligation"""""""""""""""......
  
  Note what she was saying.... Yes we must look after ourselves and our own first, it is our duty to do that but then we should also look out for our neighbours and not depend on the 'State' or some nebulous 'society' to look out for them. That is very different from the wildely inaccurate accusations of 'selfishness' that the left like to portray.

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