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  Bob, I`d have viewed the wine bar in the light of, if you don`t collect them, I`ll pop them all in the local glass recycling bins, causing them to fill quicker, whereby more collections will be required, which could be equally, if not more costly. One for the mathematicians out there.... Vic, what bought this on was the fact of someone with a hacksaw up the Great Central preserved railway at Loughborough, going there in the night and sawing the copper pipework off one of the large steam locomotives up there. They may have got tens of pounds worth of copper for scrap, but the cost to the locomotive owner`s to replace all that pipework will be in the hundred`s of pound`s to replace.

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