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    Oh you are wicked...cant think why Roger wouldnt be invited, it was only a straightforward presentation. As it includes Deal and Sandwich perhaps it was something to do about being cautious with numbers.

    Just a couple of further little bits about the tourism situation. Jon Iveson, who certainly knows his local stuff, as you say there Ray he can talk for ages entertainingly on the Bronze Age Boat and much else...he said that they were "wedded" to the name White Cliffs Country as a considerable amount of money has been poured into this over the years. I assume this is to satisfy our sometimes disgruntled Deal and Sandwich neighbours.

    But...this is like trying to push water up hill to some extent, as who in the wider world would know where White Cliffs Country is? The White Cliffs of Dover on the other hand is the natural brandname...known to all and sundry, both far and wide...yet it is not used.

    More on all this of course on the frontpage but just another little bit...reserving accommodation online is up by 20%..although visitor levels are roughly the same as previously..it is just a different way of doing it.

    Also the secondary market is growing so there is scope for Dover there...in that many cruise visitors for example have already done several cruises previously, have already done the London and Leeds Castle standards, and are looking for something else. It is this secondary market where scope for advancement lies for Dover/Sandwich/Deal.

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