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    Yes Bern, Im not trying to open any old Irish wounds but just making the point about the propoganda type stories from the other side of the picture. The people on the ground in Iraq are not seeing it the same way as the western media. Although to be fair to the media the BBC did present the other side of the story. But the constant stream of western government press releases stating rose coloured achievement is often pie in the sky.

    To switch countries for a moment and to carry on my anti war position, I see Gordon Brown is not listening to me at all (which is such a shock) as he is now sending yet more troops to Afghanistan. The announcement made yesterday. I see this as lunacy as I beleive it will in the longterm achieve nothing.

    One Taliban commander said yesterday
    "a year ago I had only 8 comrades fighting the infidel, now I have 500 "

    That about says it all I guess.

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