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    MAREK;
    I take your point, but don't agree

    Let me explain why;

    When I was a kid we had no money, in fact very poor, but still I knew right from wrong, and although society gave us little as a kid, I knew how to behave, and occupy myself.

    I do understand that more needs to be done to stop people offending in the first place, ie looking at broken homes etc, but none the less crime is a crime.

    Nice that Roger and I are close to being at one on this(blimey, getting worried im talking like a tory lol)

    We do need some drastic changes, to prison, to society, to the benefits system
    All will take time
    But without it, we go no where

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