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    The whole point here PaulB is the threat we have to the West is a very real one.

    The best defence against that threat is to keep the Taliban on the move, kill them wherever possible, destroy their camps, stopping them from establishing secure bases and training camps from which to plot terror attacks.

    That is really the best that we can achieve, unless..... and this is the weak point, the legitimate Governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan can re-establish themselves as the legitimate authority in these areas and be those to whom the local people look for protection and all the things that people normally to to their Governments for. This is probably why our own military have said that we will be there for 30 years! There is little or no faith in the current generation of politicians tere.

    If we pull out then within a year or two we could be subject to devastating terror attacks on our cities and may well find ourselves having to return there in more force.

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