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  Diana is right - back in the dark ages when I trained as a nurse we used tio seek out things to clean! On nights I would strip out the clinic room and clean it. The infections and cross-infections we have now were not a risk then. The way teams are managed matters and it is simply not viable to manage multiple teams in one area into which members have to buy, or feel accountable. Some things cannot be franchised out, no matter how good the managers!! But Sid is also right - the buck stops with management, sadly (I speak as one who knows). If the staff are idle, sack 'em!! But do it the right way, for goodness sake!!!

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