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    Dave1's suggestion was the obvious answer from the start, separate pubs for smokers and non-smokers. It was probably not entertained because it would not have done for the former to have turned out to have been heaving and the latter virtually deserted, as would have been the inevitable outcome.

    This must be the umpteenth thread on smoking with the same people saying the same things over and over again, ad nauseam, as though none of it had ever been said before. All it lacks so far is BarryW performing his usual trick of stating what is spectacularly blooming obvious to everyone else followed by GEDDITT!!!!!

    Don't care myself. I hardly ever drink any more and am not remotely tempted by the prospect of standing outside a characterless gastropub inhabited by a thin sprinkling of squeaky clean, sweet smelling, sanctimonious, holier than thou non-smokers. As far as I am concerned, they all deserve each other and good luck to them, the more the merrier. I used to go out for a drink and a fag, not a night in an antiseptic outpost of a members-only health farm.

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