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    James - I don't believe there any any fully democratic countries in Africa any more - they may have elections, but most if not all are one-party states.

    There are many areas of South Africa where concentrated black ghettos have completely destroyed areas that were once smart suburbs - Hillbrow in Jo'burg for one Stanton City is not as good as it used to be and in 20 years time, it will all be a slum. Even Cape Town has areas that are no go areas now.

    Just for the record, Nelson Mandela was put in prison for being a terrorist trying to blow up Government buildings - he was found guilty and sent to prison; any other African state would have executed him.
    I have the greatest respect for Nelson Mandela and he has proved the saviour of South Africa - but the Rainbow Nation is not a Country for the squeamish, or those that don't like to have high fences around their property, big dogs and security firms.
    Every white person knows someone who has been mugged or killed.

    You don't go jogging there, you'd get mugged or shot; you drive to the gym, you don't get out of your car until you are home and in your garage and the electric door has gone up.

    Even Johannesburg's Central Business District is a slum and most businesses have moved out.

    Apartheid was a wicked system, but it didn't force people to live in slums, blacks were treated as a race apart, definitely not as equals; they weren't denied an education, but many blacks would not go to school, many opposed the white man's education (especially when they were teaching Afrikaans) which was a very big mistake because a whole generation, probably two, grew up unable to read or write.





    Roger

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