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  No Barry, I probably ate half a pig for lunch as I had to finish the bacon left by two of children. I have also worked in an abattoir so know what it is like from that end, in fact my first Saturday job was in a butchers and when not delivering I was out the back plucking and gutting chickens. One of my Jewish friends used to call round on fast days just to get a bacon sandwich.
  My point was that producing beef takes up far more resources than can be justified in terms of produce and, in the case of the leather that comes as an important part of that production, there are perfectly good synthetic substitutes. Knowing first hand the suffering of animals in reasonably 'humane' slaughter houses I can never support any sort of killing for morbid pleasure, whatever excuse is used to justify it.

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