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    PaulB - I disagree with you DC is committed against the Lisbon Treaty and if it is not ratified when elected then there will be a referendum and that will signal the end of that, because DC will not buckle under for another referendum like the Irish did. You are right a referndum will be won by the No vote and what a satisfying vote that will be.

    It would be politically unacceptable for him to do otherwise (even ignoring his strong convictions against it).

    If the damn thing is ratified then we will have a different ball game totally. It will be law and the only options will be in, out all together, or a fundamental re-negotiation. He should play things diplomatically at first regarding a re-negotiation but if the rest are not willing to budge then we must totally gum up the whole rotten EU edifice.

    Personally I would like to see us out and have hopes that in the latter case of the Lisbon Treaty being ratified we will be on our way out.

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