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  Bary - I can never tell whether you are being playful or if you're really that deluded.
  
  Point 1 - Read my original post regards referendum, the question etc..
  Point 2 - all laws and treaties are in legal speak, and this is not the reserve of the EU. It's not an indesputible fact that you claim, it's an accusation with no evidence.
  Point 3 - true, but the UK has many opt-outs so vetos are largely unnecessary for us.
  Point 4 - Good try Barry! You claim it's a fact. Any 6th former could tell you the difference between the first bit (that there will be a post created called "President") is a fact, but that the second bit ("a key postitioning in the development of an EU superstate") is your opinion, and it's unsubstatiated nonsense. The Treaty makes the President's powers clear, and it's sod all to do with being a super state! We already have an EU Presidnet that rotates every 6 months. The new President will have vitually identical powers.
  Point 5 - Half true, much like your scaremongering over the President.
  
  Finally, thanks for validating my point regards the Eurosceptic's real agenda. Nowt to do with Lisbon, everything to do with a withdrawal.
  
  No doubt that rejecting Lisbon is NOT the first step to withdrawal. It IS a way of guranteeing inferior governance at EU level for the next 10 years at least.

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