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    What PaulB is saying expresses the very worst aspects of the EU. This self-belief that they are right and any expression of disagreement from the electorate or their representatives should not be tolerated.

    Take the EU Constitution. To the shock of the Commission the required referendums went against it in more than one country. So what does the EU do....

    They change the wording to make it even more diffficult to understand but leaving 95% of its provisions in place, just the same as before and call it a Treaty. (This was admitted in a rare candid interview by one of the authors, ex French President Valerie Gisgard D'estang).

    The change of name means that there is an excuse not to hold a referendum and so only Ireland does so, the Irish, wisely, voted it down so now what does the EU do? The require another referendum in Ireland.....

    The contempt that the EU has for its own rules and the electorate is utterly staggering.

    We the electorate, the people who pay the taxes that pay the salaries of the EU Commission and MEPs, are now being critisised by PaulB for electing MEPs that are sceptical and critical of the EU.

    The EU needs, more than any other organisation, to be closely and rigerously scrutinised by MEPs such as Dan Hannen. They dont like it as it cramps their style and they cannot sneak through idiotic and interfering rules. They think they know best - they dont.

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