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    On the main points, while I am sure we all agree that MP's 'perks' need serious attention and curtailing, reducing the number would only lead to less local representation and greater control by the majority party. Instead of any meaningful representation of the electorate you would have MP's with only a general knowledge of their areas ruled by Party whip. I agree with Keith (and this must stop before people say I spend too much time talking to him) that cutting quango's would be a good thing and that for a more efficient and local needs representation County should go with reorganised District and Town/Parish councils working together to provide local needs. This would, of course, require major restructuring on both levels and would not be cheap to achieve.

    'An Independent Britain'. This is a dream of those who would like to think we still have an empire and major influence in the world. What we do need is stronger representation in Europe and a government that takes guidelines as just that, rather than swallowing them whole then adding miles of red-tape and legislation to it. Get Euro MP's that intend to take a lead rather than those who want to sit there wanting out or claim expenses and blame the EU for everything and we could get a better deal out of it.

    Apart from that, thank you Barry for putting forward an outline for discussion, a long way from being a working proposal but a good starting point for debate.

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