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    Sid - we are all equal, we don't need to strip ourselves to establish that. The word indoctrination is bandied about like it's a bad thing, but that is exactly what education is most of the time. It's what exams are about, what learning the rules of a new workplace is about, learning the rules of the legal system eg what is a crime and what isn't. Indoctrination oils the wheels. The word isn't a bad one - the bad thing happens when people with their own agenda hijack faith for their ow purpose. Faith isn't bad, those who abuse it are.

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