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    BAZ (MATE) we will in time see, there is of course a wider arena than the conservative party or your living room.

    Cameron's trying so hard to make everyone believe the tories are no longer this mistrusted set of people, he was going well for a whle, but now prominent MP,s and MEP';s speaking out like they are are embarrassing Cameron and im sure he will sort them and we will see less of it, if not i can see cameron falling short at the winning post

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