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    To return to Andy Stevens' original point , if you are going to have a debate, have a debate!

    Not enough people are prepared to go out on any sort of limb on this forum. There's too much fence sitting and degeneration of threads into silly one-line tittering. What is it with we English? Is it some strange species of snobbery, some taboo, that sees us so frightened of expressing an opinion? I struggle to understand this.

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