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    As Isaid VIC we prob expect to much of our national sides.

    Long gone are the days of national pride.

    Don't agree VIC on your overall view, I think England did enough to pick up the points, the howler by Green didn't help.

    They will need to pick themselves up and start over, all is not lost, they still can bothg qualify and head the group.

    IT's not the best result, but its not the worst.


    Lets get behind England, but not expect to much of them.

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