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  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but maybe Bern was talking about "Middle-England, who are different from "Middle-Class.
  Middle-England people are also working class people who have perhaps worked that bit harder, maybe had a better education, but also had a good dose of good-luck too, so now they are not on the bones of their arses - other than being over taxed.
  
  Howard - what do you mean non-socialist people like you ?? come off it !!
  
  
  
  
  Roger

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