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  Sorry to disagree, Sid, but I think we should (as you put it) put ourselves outside the body that will negotiate their way through this mess. Why should the British taxpayer bankroll a mismanaged Greek economy when our own economy is in such a parlous state? We've had to prop up the British economy by bailing out our own banks to ensure that the City didn't founder, and we're being told that the recovery is so fragile we could dip back into recession at any time.....so, if we're in such a state, surely it makes sense to save the money and invest in rebuilding a British manufacturing industry that keeps British taxpayers in a job in the short term as well as the long term.
  
  The EU is an ideal and idealism is fine in theory but rarely in practice.

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