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  I am confused. Vic has raised a valid, conversational, point about a safety matter about which he has strong feelings and those feelings clearly arise out of a personal, troubling, experience. It has made me more aware of risks that i had previously not considered, it is not offensive, has prompted thought and debate, and is coherent. I'm with Chris on this one. There are other threads and postings that give me much more cause for concern and irritation!!!!

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