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    Thanks Bern.
    Barry I think you will find that one of the functions of the courts is to act on laws passed by the government of the day, so Gordon Brown has a lot to do with it. There have in the past been far too many mistakes made by the judicial system for there ever to be such a thing as a 'safe verdict' on which to enact revenge killings. Statistics show that the majority of killings are spur of the moment or 'crimes of passion' (a term I would like to see scapped along with 'honour killings' for adding a false glamour to murder) so a supposed deterent would do little to curb them. It somehow reminds me of the head teacher who was asked about corporal punishment and replied that he was 'caning the same hard core all the time'. Killers should be locked away for life, living with the consequences of their actions just as the families and friends of their victims have too. For other crimes the justice system has to look at ways of breaking patterns of behaviour rather than perpetuating a criminal network.

    As a final point for Howard, legalising drugs would also starve the Taliban and others of their main source of income, no small point to consider.

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