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    Wetherspoons and pubs are not the really the same thing, in the same way McDonalds and restaurants are not, and supermarkets and town centres are not the same thing. Wetherspoons accommodate much of the behavior that we associate with pubs but have a totally different agenda centered on getting drunk and holding a monopoly. Yes the people that populate the 8-bells have voted with their feet and have chosen to spend their cash in the cheapest establishment. This has had a detrimental effect on all the other 'pubs' in the town that would once equally benefit from transient drinkers (town pubs and locals also being different in character). This phenomenon is still observable in Deal (that has no Wetherspoons) groups of people move around pubs and create a movement and novelty in the town.

    Dover, being a place of relative deprivation, leads to many people choosing the cheapest option over any kind of quality and on top of this why move around when you can get all of your requirements in one shop...I mean establishment. So once you have all had your salt laden microwave food washed down with a 15 pint pitcher of pimms (not that they encourage binge drinking!) you go home and forget the surrounding pubs. Asda...I mean Wetherspoons has been the death of many of the pubs in the town, that were once vibrant and full of character. There are still a few great establishments in town and I try to support them as much as someone with a young family can and it upsets me that so few support local businesses. The end result of the 'big capital boys' moving in is always a reduction in quality and ultimately a reduction in choice as we have seen with the arrival of the 8-bells.

    I do go in Wetherspoons on rare occasion, but then I set foot in Tescos twice a year too. If you like having a nice pint or a decent chat with a relative stranger don't bother going, it's rubbish! I worry that my children will miss out on 'proper' pubs, as I have learnt so much in them and made so many good friends through them. I can't say the same for Wetherspoons.

    PS I also like my Pimms as you mention Dave but with a bit of extra gin.

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