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    the first sentence of bern's post no.25 sums it up for me and a lot of people.
    the politicians have their snouts even deeper in the trough, gwyn, chas and victor will find out when they start door knocking next april.

    i certainly have no confidence in any of the parties at present.

    they all talk of cuts in this that and the other, but when asked for specifics, they prevaricate.

    i listen to the blue talk of less government, then in turn on the box and hear the shadow chancellor talking about
    restricting bonuses in banks.

    what is that if not the heavy hand of government?

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