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    He has got some good points there in your second post Barry.

    This has always been something that I have always felt quite personal about. Mrs T was voted in 3 days after I was born and then I helped to vote the Conservatives out on my 18th birthday, I really am one of Thatcher's children, probably the reason I am so self-consumed! Little did I know on my 18th birthday (as probably one of the yougest voters in the country) that I was actually voting her in again...in male form.

    "Britain's first woman prime minister has done conspicuously little for Britain's women."
    True feminists have little time for Thatcher, noting that ironically she did little for their cause, and Mrs T has been quite open about this being true.

    "Britain can no longer survive, far less prosper, on the simplicities of Margaret Thatcher's capitalism."
    Well I wouldn't call it hers, more Friedmans, but we certainly do less for ourselves as a nation, or have the skills to do so. With the wonder of free market mentality we can always get someone else to do it cheaper. Of course taking this to it's obvious outcome we now moan about cheap european labour dominating our workforce (it's OK to exploit people as long as they don't want to live here, they are just playing us at her game!). Everything in this model is measured financially, a pretty grotesque approach.

    "Poverty does not concern Mrs Thatcher."
    Now it is impossible for me to gauge what concerned her at a personal level, but she certainly heavily promoted Individualism to an extent that would lead me to question her compassion for other. "Get off your backside and do something" I agree with, but let's face it we are talking 'self-determination' and that is about choice. People don't choose poverty...and let's face it if you really assigned to this idea then we could make a sound argument that hereditary peers and royalty have no place in this model.

    "The Thatcher government has not only failed to prepare our economy for the 1990s but failed to advance our quality of life in the 1980s."
    Economically as a nation collectively we certainly have less. As for quality of life, that's a hard one to gauge. People certainly have bigger TVs and are happier to get in debt to buy one, so I can't be sure on that one!

    "She plans to eradicate the right to education and the health and social services as we know them."
    Completely unfounded. Although she did implement the 'National Curriculum' and 'League tables' to state schools (not independents obviously), a pretty good way of kicking educational establishment whenever you like. In her defence I was the last academic year to recieve a grant for university, something New Labour put an end to.

    As for the last one I think we all know there will always be enough greedy city types willing to screw us for eternity.

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